particularly on this voucher question, and what romney would propose with paul ryan to do to medicare. i mean, this is where i heard from a couple republicans well now we're on to medicare and this is where the president will just clobber him because it's an issue that's very sensitive and it's one in which mitt romney basically if we get back to this question in secrecy, romney's answer to how are you going to do this, how are you going to cap the ryan of healthcare inflation without hurting quality he basically says well the free market will figure that out which is to say there's not many details about it. the president didn't press him to the mat on that. he gave an answer and assumed everybody would get there. that was true on a number of different policy fronts in the debate time. >> rose: including energy. yes? >> i was going to pick on what john just said. i was struck by how ill prepare the president was. let me take two specifics. one on pre existing, coverage on preexisting conditions. romney is saying for a while he's for it for people who are already covered but not peopl